Oppo QOTD: Whats The Worst New Age Shift Lever?

"Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis" (Dwhite95) 03/08/2017 at 12:18 • Filed to: None

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Gone are the days where the simple lever was all you needed. For those who have experience with multiple types, which do you hate the most.

For me its the new Mercedes ones, its so flimsy I feel its gonna fall off every time I touch the damn thing. They are also always hiding behind the steering wheel, but thats me forgetting these are a thing now. A close second is the one out of the new X5M, I hate that damn thing so much, but I dont drive those too often, so its much less of an issue.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 12:20

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The Prius was quite flimsy feeling but it was pretty standard. The Leaf shifter is absolutely incomprehensible to me.

PS9 > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 12:22

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Wait, they put that inside a Mercedes? That looks like a flimsy 90s era Chrysler thingamabob and they’re putting it in a Merc?

TechBro > PS9 03/08/2017 at 12:24

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The new ones look like this (the other one was out of a 2006 ML):

Rico > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 12:25

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I actually like the MB transmission stalk. With paddle shifters it completely frees up the center console. You only use it once or twice in a drive anyway. After using one of these for a few weeks when I went back to the center mounted shifter I kept reaching for the non-existent stalk.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > TechBro 03/08/2017 at 12:26

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That is true, but I still really dont like them.

*I just picked the first result off google images.

bhtooefr > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 03/08/2017 at 12:27

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IIRC, the Gen 2-4 Prius and the Leaf actually use the same shift pattern, the Leaf just has a really strange design to it. (It’s actually become a bit of a standard for eco cars in Japan, with the Honda Jazz (Fit) and Vezel (HR-V) hybrids and the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV using it too.)

jimz > PS9 03/08/2017 at 12:27

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Yes, that’s a Mercedes thing. Worse yet is they forced Chrysler to use their equally stupid cruise control stalk.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > PS9 03/08/2017 at 12:28

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$250,000 car had one just like it. It’s white so it’shidden but it’s just above the right spoke on the steering wheel.

jimz > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 12:28

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WTF is “B”?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 12:29

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Those stupid zig-zag shifters that everyone seems to be using nowadays.

HammerheadFistpunch > jimz 03/08/2017 at 12:30

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Bregenerative mode

404 - User No Longer Available > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 12:34

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Anything with R N D on it.

Shoop > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 03/08/2017 at 12:39

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Nah they provide positive feedback between each gear. You’re not accidentally putting it in reverse in one of those.

CalzoneGolem > jimz 03/08/2017 at 12:41

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Bountain mode.

jimz > bhtooefr 03/08/2017 at 12:43

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I looked up the Leaf’s gear selector.

what.

the.

fuck.

can someone tell the Japanese car companies that “inscrutable” and “weird” don’t mean “high tech” anymore?

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 12:44

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For your reference:

EM Corvair:

LM Corvair:

Future next gen S2000 owner > jimz 03/08/2017 at 12:45

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B Cool

You tell that bitch to be cool.

Be cool hunny bunny.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > 404 - User No Longer Available 03/08/2017 at 12:45

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Say what you will, but R is a pretty useful one...

404 - User No Longer Available > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 12:46

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Fine... N D.

jimz > CalzoneGolem 03/08/2017 at 12:48

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you people are killing me

LongbowMkII > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 03/08/2017 at 12:49

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squiggles are good. gated automatic.

PotbellyJoe and 42 others > jimz 03/08/2017 at 12:50

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It’s effectively like taking your car out of overdrive, since there’s not gears, but there’s no industry standard for “B” on PRNDL and they should have gone with something more common.

As a former salesman of the Prius, this feature drove me crazy to explain to people who never used the “cancel overdrive” switch on their other cars so they still had no idea what I was talking about when I explained it.

bhtooefr > jimz 03/08/2017 at 12:52

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Maximum engine braking. Essentially, send excess regenerative braking power from MG2 to MG1, and spin the engine without fuel. (Because of how the transmission works, though, I believe some torque, and therefore power, from the wheels goes into spinning the engine mechanically as well.)

They were legally required to have the equivalent of a low gear for engine braking purposes, so that’s what they called it, because it legitimately can’t be called a low gear.

bhtooefr > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 03/08/2017 at 12:55

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Mercedes started that in the 1970s, IIRC. Safer than a straight shifter.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > bhtooefr 03/08/2017 at 13:07

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But the Prius has a stick and a gate and isn’t just a spaceball that returns to the center

Textured Soy Protein > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 13:11

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The Prius was one of the first stupid joystick shifters and continues to be stupid.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 13:14

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All of them.

1-2-3-4-5-6-R

or

P-R-N-D-3-2-1 (Alternately -D-M/L)

are best and always will be.

IAN_Z > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 03/08/2017 at 13:26

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HWAT

Fujiwara > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 13:26

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Not a lever, but this mess:

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > IAN_Z 03/08/2017 at 13:33

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Bad right.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > jimz 03/08/2017 at 13:40

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Toyotas cruise control stock is still easily the best I’ve used.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > Fujiwara 03/08/2017 at 14:00

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Yup, have those made it down to Honda’s yet, or just Acura?

Fujiwara > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 14:12

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I think Honda is safe since this is seen as a “luxury” feature on certain V6 Acura models. Acura describes it like this:

“The intuitive gear selection system uses pushbuttons for Drive, Neutral and Park, while using pull-levers for Reverse and the Parking Brake.”

Maybe we’re the idiots.

Vicente Esteve > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 03/08/2017 at 14:21

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I have been driven by a couple people that own Toyotas and hey all SLAM the shifter to D from Park. Its as if they are in a competition to see who can get it the fastest to D.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 14:21

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FCA’s ratcheting lever. It’s just stupid. And it doesn’t even save any room or look special. It could be an “old fashioned” moving lever, but know some one thought it needed to snap back to a nuetral position for some reason. I’m really sad that the SRT Durango has this instead of the Dial shifter it normally has. Which I’d say is he best new age shifter.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/08/2017 at 14:28

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Many a time I have attempted to get into reverse only to go to neutral, the back to park, then drive, then reverse.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/08/2017 at 14:28

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Many a time I have attempted to get into reverse only to go to neutral, the back to park, then drive, then reverse.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/08/2017 at 14:28

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Many a time I have attempted to get into reverse only to go to neutral, the back to park, then drive, then reverse.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 14:29

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Exactly, I could not live with it. Buy a 40,000 dollar new Jeep just to be annoyed every time I have to park, or leave a parking spot? No thanks

The Stig's former college room mate > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/08/2017 at 15:22

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I hate the dial shifter in my RAM. Mostly because there isn’t anything to rest my hand on.

My wife’s grand cherokee has the new conventional shifter that replaced the ratchet shifter. It is the best automatic shifter ever. the knob is shaped perfectly for your hand. the release button is a trigger on the front instead of the side or top. the detents have a very pleasing, positive feel without being stiff. It’s hard to explain but i’ve never before gotten in a vehicle and noticed how pleasant an automatic shifter was.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > The Stig's former college room mate 03/08/2017 at 15:48

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Oh good, maybe that shifter in the STR Durango is the same. I didn’t realize they were replacing the ratchet.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > bhtooefr 03/08/2017 at 16:01

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Except the gate is flimsy plastic that squeaks and creaks every time you shift.

The Stig's former college room mate > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/08/2017 at 16:05

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Yeah FCA had to scramble and come up with a new shifter because people were leaving them in neutral and the car was rolling away. That actor from the star trek movies was crushed by his run away grand cherokee. I’m pretty sure the new shifter is just a parts bin Fiat piece but I rather like it.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Shoop 03/08/2017 at 16:05

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Is the “feedback” the flimsy plastic gate creaking every time you shift?

Shoop > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 03/08/2017 at 16:33

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I’m not saying it’s perfect I’m saying it’s far better than a push button or rotary. And the question asked for worst.

Also yes. Clunkcuinkclunkclunk

Alex B > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 16:39

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I believe the Touring Elite Pilot has this shifter now.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > The Stig's former college room mate 03/08/2017 at 16:41

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Just tell yourself it’s parts bin Alfa parts.

GE90man > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 03/08/2017 at 17:00

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check out the new odyssey, it has buttons

jmgadget > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 03/08/2017 at 17:37

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The shifter in the SRT Durango is actually the new one that does move like a normal shifter, not the one that returns to center. I think everything in the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep lineup with that ratcheting lever got new shifters for the 2015-2016 model refreshes.

Dodge seems to all use the new shifter seen above
Chrysler seem to be using the dial (luxury?)
Jeep is using a similar one to the Dodge.

jimz > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 03/09/2017 at 06:10

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I find it utterly unsurprising you would say that.